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January 27, 2010

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I was thinking about this earlier today, too. And I was thinking that the SDK would be the answer.

I'm not sure if lawyer-specific tools will emerge or if most people will be happy with a good general-purpose PDF reader. (An ebook reader might end up doing simple annotations, for example, much as the Kindle app does for books. Even Adobe might release a pro version of Acrobat on the iPhone, if permitted by Apple.)

With the idea that someone who has downloaded the SDK might be reading... If you could design your own PDF annotation tools, what would you change?

Ernie Svenson

Hmmm, good question. I guess I'd like the basic editing tools that exist in Acrobat: the ability to highlight, underline and put sticky notes for starters. And the ability to create bookmarks, and to navigate to places in the PDF where such markers were located.

I don't need redaction, bates-stamping, OCR. But the ability to digitally sign a document would be important. And the typewriter function would be key as well. If the PDF was password protected I'd need the ability to unlock it. Those are the first things that come to mind.

Brandon Bodnár

Just wanted to comment on the bluetooth keyboard question. According to the apple.com website, the bluetooth keyboard will work.

And because iPad has built-in Bluetooth 2.1, it’ll work with an Apple Wireless Keyboard, too.

iPad Design: Accessories

Sherman Dorn

I agree that a PDF annotation app would make the iPad about perfect for professionals who have to read and comment on documents. There's an annotation app for the iPhone, Aji Annotate (http://ajidev.com/), and I've already asked at the forum there if Aji will create an iPad version. That plus an iPad version of the Pogo stylus and I'm set.

Kris

"I will probably get the maximum storage capacity."

I'm going to buy one, but I'm wrestling with which storage capacity I will need.

What do you anticipate storing on the iPad that you think dictates going with the 64 GB model?

Ernie Svenson

That's a great question. And since I don't know, I'd probably get the max storage too. I think of my iPhone and the stuff I put on there and figure it'd be a lot more than that. I have the 32 GB iPhone and it's 75% full.

Dave!

With apps like "Dropbox" (which there is an iPhone app for, so I presume it will work on the iPad) I'm storing more and more "in the cloud" and less and less on my iPhone. I got the 32GB iPhone, and aside from music and some pictures of my wife/kid, I'm not making much of a dent. Since I won't be putting music on the iPad, I will probably go low storage.

The real question for me is 3G or not 3G. First, AT&T's network has proven to be less than stellar to begin with... second, I seem to be able to snarf a wi-fi signal 98% of the places I go. That's a tough call for me...

Ernie Svenson

Hey Dave:

The point about Dropbox is dead-on. An attorney that I work with said the same thing, and you are both right. I actually DON"T want a bunch of files stored in that device (if I had one).

My thought on 3G is this: you need some kind of broadband access so that when you're in court or wherever and need to prove a document, or the law, you can get to the cloud source without having to worry about if WiFi is available.

But the iPad isn't locked to AT&T. The month-to-month offer that Steve Jobs quoted was an AT&T offer, but he pointed out that the 3G card is open to any carrier (which is why it's going to work in International locations too). He said something about being able to activate the 3G with AT&T (if you choose that path) quickly and seamlessly. Since it's a month-to-month deal with AT&T you could activate it if you needed it for an important event, and then cancel at the end of the month. If you needed to prove a point at a hearing or arbitration or whatever, and it cost you $15, you'd probably do it without worrying about it.

Also, you can use those MiFi cards which work as 3G but use WiFi to pair. They're available from Sprint and Verizon, but they cost $60/month. The advantage of those is that you can have them in your pocket, and also have up to 4 people use it if you needed to. So, there are lots of options with the 3G and without it. But some kind of wireless broadband is probably a good idea.

Robert

Hi, Ernie. I recently attended your young lawyer's seminar on technology. Good stuff.

I've been thinking about uses for me:

I think of it as a giant legal pad. Currently, when I meet with a client, I pull out a pad and a pen and take notes. I then rip the page out, scan it, and trash it.

I foresee skipping the paper with this device and a Pogo (or similar) conductive screen stylus.

Additionally, as you said, annotating PDFs, signing PDFs are all great tools.

Drop box combined with this device could make your paperless office really work for you.

Ernie Svenson

Oh hey Robert! I agree that it would be helpful in those instances. I can't wait til it's available and we can all give it a go. But, for now, we have DropBox and that's really great.

Dave!

Robert: Thanks for the HT on the Pogo! I'm going to pick one up ASAP.

Ernie: I probably will end up with the 3G version--I know I'll use it. But not in court... believe it or not, there are still (state) courtrooms here that I can't get a damn AT&T signal in!

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Ernie

I wrote a piece in Technolaywer last year about why solo practice is a drag. I believe you called it "totally useless?" So, how would you describe this post? You haven't used an iPad right? You don't own one right? Was this post a thought experiment?

Anybody can nitpick and complain. It's much harder to be creative and take risks. I'm guessing that's not your strong suit. Sniping at others is much easier than doing things, so you probably confine yourself to that.

Risk made Apple an innovator. Apple has created entire markets by being there first. I doubt Steve Jobs cares if you've found a use for his new device. Come to think of it, neither do I. I'd say that makes this post totally useless, wouldn't you?

M. Hedayat

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I'm looking forward to the Kindle-like capabilities of the iPad, and I'm sure I'll eventually buy one. My question, though, for anyone who can answer - what kind of new apps do you think this device might lead people to develop (West, Lexis, anyone else)? What might make this device more handy than, say, a small travel laptop?

Thanks

Robert Louque

This is another Robert that attended one of your seminars. You said in one of your comments that the iPad is not exclusive to AT&T? Frankly, I did not even look into the iPad for this very reason. I was waiting on the HP Slate to come out.

Ernie Svenson

Hey Robert:

I'm not sure if the iPad is 'exclusive' to AT&T. But it sounds like it might not be because, from what I understand, the SIM chip is one that makes it work with any GSM provider. The AT&T deal sounds pretty good in this sense: no contract needed (month to month is okay), activation from the device simply by entering credit card information, and pretty good deal on data ($15/250 Mbs) or ($30 for unlimited data).

Peter

Will there be a handwriting recognition capability? That might put me over the edge. Then I could just email myself or upload that piece of "paper". I'm not the kind of person who is going to write something on papeer, take it back to the office, and then scan it. And no way would I then throw that piece of paper away. But if I could short circuit the scanning part, I'd consider it.

Paul Jacobson

Hey Ernie, I was also thinking about the iPad for legal work. At the moment I am still more in favour of a Kindle DX for all my reference documents and my MacBook for note-taking and all the other stuff I do on my computer.

The iPad seems like it would be terrific for home use or at a coffee shop but when it comes to all the tools we lawyers use (like PDF annotation and so on), I just don't see an oversized iPod Touch being a match for a laptop.

That isn't to say the form factor isn't suitable but iPad just seems a little too restrictive as a platform. I do think we will see other companies bring out tablets to compete with the iPad like phone companies did to compete with the iPhone. I am pretty excited to see a Google tablet, perhaps running Android? We're certainly not going to see a tablet running OS X for a while so maybe the mobile OS's are going to be the way to go for now.

Stanley Feldman

I am also interested in Kindle like use of the iPad. Sentencing guidelines, criminal statutes, etc.

Josh Barrett

I'm initially excited to be able to work with the different SaaS applications on the larger interface. I extensively use 37Signals products and while the iPhone counterparts are OK, they are no match for using those apps in Safari. I've not used Clio, but I put it in the same category of SaaS tools that will benefit from the additional screen real estate.

Need Apple to make the local storage of the device more flexible and accessible by other apps. Let me add a document from DropBox to Clio document management or attach to a Backpack page...

Clyde Anderson

When I first started thinking about the ipad, I started with the obvious: using a data plan and using the ipad to peruse and show statutes and check email in the courtroom.

But then I started wondering how it would help towards the goal of a paperless office. Everything would be scanned into folders with the client's name or file no, and you could drag and drop the files you're working onto the device. If you run into another attorney and need to unexpectedly discuss another file, the legal assistant could use dropbox or mobile me on the office computer to send it to you.

Is there not a locking indent on the device? Really? A single usb port would also be helpful in this regard. It seems apple could change one or two simple items and produce a must have for every professional except of a cool toy or gadget for home consumers.

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What I want in a legal-oriented e-reader is a device that will lie flat, like a Kindle, Nook, or iPad; that can hold volumes of court papers or appellate records in pdf format; that can jump to a particular document or a particular page quickly (i.e., at least as quickly as a lawyer can pull up a 3-ring binder and find a page while a judge is glaring daggers at him or her); and that has some simple annotation tools that result in notes that can be printed out. The screen should either be 8 x 11 or a smaller size that still permits 8 x 11 documents to be read clearly; and scanned-ocr pdfs should not look like gobbledygook on them. To my knowledge, no current e-reader meets those criteria. I wonder if the iPad will.

Peterthelawyer

If you already have an iphone with a 3G you won't need 3G on the ipad, just get the basic wifi one, it has bluetooth so you should be able to use the bluetooth and tether the ipad to the iphone 3G and be able to surf anywhere on the ipad as long as your iphone is in your pocket or nearby.

Billy Schroeder

I ordered my iPad a couple days ago. My only worry is typing on it. I was concerned about that with the iphone too though and I think I am faster on the iPhone than I was on my Treo.

Nicole Black

Stumbled across this post as I was researching for an article I'm writing for my Daily Record column on the iPad, lawyers and how it may be used by lawyers. The feedback I've gotten from my readers and Twitter followers comports with what you say, Ernie, and what your commenters said: lawyers will want to use the iPad in lieu of dragging paper docs around. They'll want to be able to annotate docs.

There are two apps that allow that right now on the iPhone--one was already mentioned above--Aji. Zosh is another app that allows for annotation of pdfs. I used that one frequently to sign and fill in contracts that I use in my consulting business.

I think the iPad is a game changer, although many disagree with me. Only time will tell.

In any event, interesting post Ernie-thanks for the insight. Maybe we'll finally meet at TechShow--I'm speaking there as well, and the book that I wrote with Carolyn Elefant "Social Media for Lawyers: The Next Frontier" is being previewed at TechShow. Should prove to be an exciting week!

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